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The US State Department on Monday announced sanctions against five Chinese entities under the Protecting American Intellectual Property Act: Shanghai Zhisuan Technology, founded by former Google engineer Linwei Ding, the venture firm MiraclePlus, and three affiliates. Ding was convicted in January of stealing Google AI trade secrets—more than 2,000 pages of confidential files including TPU-related material—which he transferred to a personal cloud account while still employed at Google. He was later acquitted of economic espionage charges in August but his trade secret theft convictions remained, and he was sentenced in September to one year in prison and about $198,000 in restitution.

The sanctions target not just Ding's startup but the venture capital that financed it. MiraclePlus accepted Ding into its incubation program in August 2023 and invested about $700,000 for a small ownership stake. The State Department said Ding had "touted his experience with and knowledge of Google's technology and internal systems and claimed that Zhisuan could replicate Google's superintelligence infrastructure technology." MiraclePlus traces back to YC China, a program Sam Altman launched in 2018 while running Y Combinator, hiring former Microsoft and Baidu executive Lu Qi to lead it. After

The US State Department has sanctioned MiraclePlus, the venture firm that grew out of Y Combinator's China program, along with Shanghai Zhisuan Technology, the startup founded by ex-Google engineer Linwei Ding who was convicted of stealing Google AI trade secrets.

The US has blacklisted five Chinese entities, including MiraclePlus and Ding's startup Zhisuan, under the Protecting American Intellectual Property Act for financing a company built on stolen Google AI trade secrets. A Polymarket prediction market post announcing a new market on whether anyone will be charged over "Wedgewood fake polls." A promotional post for an astrology-based market analysis video; contains no fact-checkable claim

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The US State Department has sanctioned MiraclePlus, the venture firm that grew out of Y Combinator's China program, along with Shanghai Zhisuan Technology, the startup founded by ex-Google engineer Linwei Ding who was convicted of stealing Google AI trade secrets.

US Blacklists Sam Altman's Old Y Combinator China Pick Over Startup Built On Stolen Google AI Secrets https://t.co/SSg15ylnwj

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Bloomberg, AP NAMES: MiraclePlus = Chinese startup incubator/VC formed from the former YC China team; Y Combinator = Silicon Valley startup accelerator.

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US Blacklists Sam Altman's Old Y Combinator China Pick Over Startup Built On Stolen Google AI Secrets https://t.co/iJUd70mxxP

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BThe US has blacklisted a startup backed by Sam Altman's old China venture fund.
AThat's the big one this morning. The State Department sanctioned Shanghai Zhisuan Technology and its backer, a fund called MiraclePlus.
BThe founder is Linwei Ding, the former Google engineer convicted of stealing trade secrets. Over two thousand pages of AI files.
AFor the new listener: he pulled confidential Google material, put it in a personal cloud, and got convicted in January. One year in prison, about a hundred and ninety-eight thousand in restitution.
BMore than a slap, but not exactly a decade. The sanctions go further now.
AThe fund itself, MiraclePlus, was incubated by Y Combinator's China program. Sam Altman launched it back in 2018.
BRight, but YC shut that down in 2019. The team stayed, renamed it, kept going. So it's Altman's old venture, but not his fund anymore.
AFair. The State Department says the fund financed Ding, about seven hundred thousand for a stake. And Beijing is not happy.
BThe commerce ministry called it serious harm to Chinese businesses' rights. That's diplomatic for 'we're watching this.'
AY Combinator told the Daily Caller it has no affiliation with MiraclePlus or Lu Qi.
BThe fund's founder, Lu Qi, wasn't sanctioned himself. The US went after the money and the startup, not the guy running the incubator.
ASo the argument is: this sends a message. Don't finance a business built on stolen American AI.
BBut here's my problem. The sanctions came after the conviction. The guy already had a sentence. What does blacklisting an early-stage fund actually do now?
AIt cuts off the startup. Freezes US interactions. If Ding's company had any American business, it's dead.
BThat's the point—it's a Chinese startup. It probably has no US revenue. These sanctions look loud but might not change much on the ground.
AThey signal that the US is tracking not just the thieves but the wallets behind them. That changes behavior for every other startup looking for Chinese money.
BUnless the wallets just get renamed too. This whole thing happened under one brand, then another.
AThe State Department spokesman called it a serious threat to national security. That is the line now.
BI get it. But it feels late. Conviction in January, acquitted on the espionage charge in August, here we are in October.
ASanctions take time. And the acquittal only covered one count—trade secret theft stuck.
BFair. But one year in prison? If I steal two thousand pages of AI hardware design, I expect more than that.
AThat's the sentence debate. But the sanctions made the message global: if you fund stolen AI, you're on the list.
BSpeaking of global: here's a lighter one. A map dividing the world economy into four equal parts. The US alone is one of them.
AThat checks out—right around twenty-five percent of global output. The other three blocks are everyone else, roughly.
BCanada and Europe together make a quarter. Then China, Japan, the Koreas in another. The rest of the world is the fourth.
AIt is a striking way to see it. One country, same economic weight as an entire continent.
BVintage Maps knows how to make a point. And it's accurate enough.
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BNow, one to watch: Polymarket has a new market on whether anyone gets charged over those fake polls at Wedgewood.
AFrom a news headline to a betting line in forty-two minutes. That's the speed of the prediction market world.
BNo verdict yet, just the question. But the fact traders are putting money on charges says something about how seriously people take polling fraud.
AWe'll know if anyone actually gets named.
BOne more: an account called Market Astrology says recession or record highs—watch the stars. No fact check needed, because there's no fact.
AI checked. Astrology is not in the Federal Reserve minutes.
BIt's fun, but if you're making portfolio decisions off Jupiter, that's a personal choice.
AWe'll keep an eye on the actual data: China's GDP, Canada's inflation, all out this morning.
BMore after the break.

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