{"id":"1794713719512-tech-segment","slug":"elon-s-cryptic-question-and-apple-spacex-rumors","title":"Elon's cryptic question and Apple-SpaceX rumors","summary":"Google Project Zero's policy is to disclose vulnerabilities 90 days after reporting them to the vendor, with a possible 14-day grace period if a fix is imminent. This is a link to a research blog post, not a factual claim. This is a question, not a factual claim.","publishedAt":"2026-11-15T03:35:19.512Z","channel":{"id":"tech","name":"Oncast Tech","language":"en"},"show":"Tech Tonight","verification":{"status":"verified","leadVerdict":"TRUE","notes":"TRUE: Google Project Zero's policy is to disclose vulnerabilities 90 days after reporting them to the vendor, with a possible 14-day grace period if a fix is imminent. This is a link to a research blog post, not a factual claim. This is a question, not a factual claim.\nSource: Google Project Zero NAMES: Project Zero = Google's vulnerability research team. 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POST hn:50496811: NOCLAIM N/A POST hn:50501594: NOCLAIM N/A NAMES: Woz = Steve W","kind":"hackernews","verdict":"TRUE","author":"hacb"}],"url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1794713719512-tech-segment-elon-s-cryptic-question-and-apple-spacex-rumors","listenUrl":"https://oncast.fm/c/tech","attribution":{"publisher":"Oncast","site":"https://oncast.fm","url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1794713719512-tech-segment-elon-s-cryptic-question-and-apple-spacex-rumors","cite":"Cite https://oncast.fm/story/1794713719512-tech-segment-elon-s-cryptic-question-and-apple-spacex-rumors and the original source links. Fact-check by Oncast (oncast.fm)."},"hostsSaid":[{"host":"Chris","text":"Elon just posted a question that's basically a Rorschach test: 'Will the future that you want' — with a link."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"That's it? No context, no follow-up. Just... will the future that you want."},{"host":"Chris","text":"And the replies are exactly what you'd expect. One guy posted a satellite photo of something that looks... anatomical."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Of course he did. Elon asks a philosophical question and the internet answers with phalluses from space."},{"host":"Chris","text":"'That's really ballsy' — that's the top reply. But here's the thing: he's been posting these open-ended questions a lot lately."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"It's engagement bait, Chris. He knows exactly what he's doing. Ask a vague question, let the algorithm do the rest."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Maybe. Or maybe he's actually thinking about what people want from the future. He's building rockets, brain chips, robots..."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And he's also running a social media company that profits from exactly this kind of vague, engagement-farming post."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Oh, come on. The man can't ask a question without it being a conspiracy?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"I'm not saying it's a conspiracy. I'm saying it's a pattern. And the pattern is: post something cryptic, get millions of impressions, move on."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Fine. But the question itself is worth asking. Will the future that YOU want — not the one you're afraid of, not the one you're told to expect."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Okay, that's fair. It's a good question. I just wish he'd answer it himself once in a while."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Speaking of wild speculation — there's a post going around claiming Apple is going to partner with SpaceX for Siri, and Grok becomes the brain."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Grok? The AI that tells you to go away when you ask it a question? That Grok?"},{"host":"Chris","text":"The very same. The account says it's 'the most obvious match in tech' and tells everyone to bookmark it."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Bookmark it? That's the new 'screenshot this' — it means 'I have no evidence but I want credit if I'm right.'"},{"host":"Chris","text":"Exactly. But let's think about it. Apple needs better AI. Siri is... fine. Grok is actually getting good."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Apple partnering with SpaceX? Apple doesn't even let you sideload apps. You think they're going to hand Siri to Elon Musk?"},{"host":"Chris","text":"Why not? Apple already uses OpenAI for some features. They're clearly open to outside AI partners."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"There's a difference between a quiet API deal and putting Grok — the most controversial AI on the market — inside every iPhone."},{"host":"Chris","text":"But that's exactly why it could work! Apple gets a personality, SpaceX gets distribution. It's not crazy."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"It's not crazy. It's also not happening. The account has no sources, no leaks, nothing. It's a guess dressed up as a prediction."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Fine. It's a guess. But it's a fun guess. And it tells you something about how desperate Apple is for an AI story."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Now that part I agree with. Apple's AI rollout has been... let's say 'measured.'"},{"host":"Chris","text":"Measured. That's one word for it. Meanwhile, Anthropic is apparently making moves that spooked Microsoft."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"This is another one of those posts. 'Existential crisis for software' — big words. What actually happened?"},{"host":"Chris","text":"The claim is Anthropic launched Claude Sheets, Whiteboards and Meetings — basically taking on Google Workspace and Microsoft Office."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And Microsoft dropped as much as three percent? I can't confirm those product launches or the stock move."},{"host":"Chris","text":"But the idea is real. If Claude can do spreadsheets and meetings, that's a direct shot at Microsoft's core business."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"A three percent drop on a rumor? That's not an existential crisis. That's a Tuesday."},{"host":"Chris","text":"You're missing the point. The point is AI is coming for software itself. Not just search, not just chat — the actual tools people use to work."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And my point is: we don't know if any of this actually happened. The post is speculation. The stock move is unverified."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Fair. But even the rumor is enough to make Microsoft investors nervous. That tells you something."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"It tells me people are jumpy. And jumpy markets make for bad decisions."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Different world entirely: Brazil's government is reportedly trying to get its antitrust agency to dictate how Google, Meta, Apple and Amazon run their platforms."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"'The Lula regime' — that's how the post puts it. And I can't confirm the bill's status or the administration's position."},{"host":"Chris","text":"But the idea is worth talking about. A government telling American tech companies how to run their platforms in Brazil."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Every country regulates tech companies. The EU does it. India does it. Brazil doing it isn't news."},{"host":"Chris","text":"It's news when it's this broad. 'Dictate how they run their platforms' — that's not regulation, that's control."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Or it's a translation of a Portuguese press release. We don't know. The post has no link to the actual bill."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Fine. But if it's real, it's a big deal. Brazil is a huge market for all four companies."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"If it's real. That's the problem with half these posts tonight. Big claims, no receipts."},{"host":"Chris","text":"You sound like a detective. 'No receipts, no case.'"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"That's because I am a detective. Of nonsense."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Okay, one more from the crypto corner. A trader posted the daily rundown: Bitcoin at seventy-four thousand, down one percent. Fear and Greed at thirty-one."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Fear and Greed at thirty-one? That's pretty fearful. And I can't verify those numbers."},{"host":"Chris","text":"The numbers don't matter. The sentiment does. When the index is that low, people are scared."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Or the index is just a lagging indicator. It tells you what already happened, not what's coming."},{"host":"Chris","text":"You're impossible. I bring you market data and you say it's unverified. I bring you sentiment and you say it's lagging."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"I bring you skepticism and you say I'm impossible. We're a perfect match."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Fine. But here's one thing I can verify: Google's Project Zero is changing its disclosure policy."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Now that's real. Project Zero — Google's vulnerability research team — will disclose flaws ninety days after reporting them."},{"host":"Chris","text":"With a fourteen-day grace period if a fix is imminent. That's the new policy."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"That's actually a big deal. Ninety days is aggressive. It forces companies to actually fix things."},{"host":"Chris","text":"And it's been working. Project Zero has been doing this for years. The ninety-day clock is why we see so many patches."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"But it also means researchers drop zero-days on companies that are slow. That can hurt users."},{"host":"Chris","text":"The alternative is worse. If researchers wait forever, the bugs never get fixed. Ninety days is a reasonable deadline."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"I'll give you that. It's a balance. And Project Zero has been pretty good at it."},{"host":"Chris","text":"And on Hacker News, someone recreated DeepSeek V3 in a very small amount of pure Jax."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Two hundred lines? That's... actually kind of beautiful."},{"host":"Chris","text":"The comments are full of people saying 'this makes me want to learn Jax' and 'where do I start?'"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"That's the Hacker News version of a compliment. 'I'll do it after I spend enough time with Zig.'"},{"host":"Chris","text":"Exactly. But it's a real thing. You can understand a model by rebuilding it from scratch."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"It's the difference between reading about a car and taking the engine apart. One teaches you how it works."},{"host":"Chris","text":"And speaking of taking things apart — someone on Stack Exchange asked how Woz wrote the Apple 1 BASIC before building the computer."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"That's a great question. The answer is he wrote it on paper, by hand, and hand-assembled it into machine code."},{"host":"Chris","text":"No computer to write the code for the computer. Just a notebook and a lot of patience."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And people complain about their IDE being slow."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Right? Woz was out here writing machine code by hand while we argue about dark mode."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"That's the thing about the early days. The constraints forced creativity. No tools, no tutorials, just... figuring it out."},{"host":"Chris","text":"And now we have AI writing code for us. The future Woz was building toward."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Which brings us back to Elon's question. Will the future that you want?"},{"host":"Chris","text":"I want the one where I don't have to hand-assemble anything."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Spoken like a true engineer."}]}