{"id":"1794187199656-news-segment","slug":"massie-mocks-gop-election-fraud-talk","title":"Massie mocks GOP election fraud talk","summary":"After the 2024 election cycle, Republicans control the White House, Senate, and House, and the Supreme Court has a conservative majority. President Trump has nonetheless continued to push election-fraud claims that independent fact-checkers have repeatedly found misleading or false.\n\nThe post wildly inflates the unauthorized immigrant population. Independent estimates put the total number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. at roughly 11 million, not 50 million or 100 million. Even the Trump administration's DHS claim about noncitizen registered voters was about 278,000, not tens of millions. This is an opinion/rant about the Federal Reserve, CNBC, lobbying, and government spending; it does not assert a specific checkable fact.","publishedAt":"2026-11-09T01:19:59.656Z","channel":{"id":"news","name":"Oncast News","language":"en"},"show":"News Tonight","verification":{"status":"verified","leadVerdict":"TRUE","notes":"TRUE: After the 2024 election cycle, Republicans control the White House, Senate, and House, and the Supreme Court has a conservative majority. President Trump has nonetheless continued to push election-fraud claims that independent fact-checkers have repeatedly found misleading or false.\nSource: [reuters.com](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/three-things-know-about-trumps-election-fraud-allegations-2026-07-17/) NAMES: Massie = Republican U.S. Re (https://x.com/DININTELNETWORK/status/2119586988714311790)\n\nFALSE: The post wildly inflates the unauthorized immigrant population. Independent estimates put the total number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. at roughly 11 million, not 50 million or 100 million. Even the Trump administration's DHS claim about noncitizen registered voters was about 278,000, not tens of millions. This is an opinion/rant about the Federal Reserve, CNBC, lobbying, and government spending; it does not assert a specific checkable fact.\nSource: [pewresearch.org](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/); [reuters.com](https://www.re (https://x.com/rr76012/status/2117080080782602282)","claims":[{"verdict":"TRUE","summary":"After the 2024 election cycle, Republicans control the White House, Senate, and House, and the Supreme Court has a conservative majority. President Trump has nonetheless continued to push election-fraud claims that independent fact-checkers have repeatedly found misleading or false.","sourceName":"[reuters.com](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/three-things-know-about-trumps-election-fraud-allegations-2026-07-17/) NAMES: Massie = Republican U.S. Re","sourceUrl":"https://x.com/DININTELNETWORK/status/2119586988714311790","claim":"Massie: \"I think it's ironic that we control the House, Senate, Supreme Court, and the White House, and we're yelling 'election fraud'? I mean, we won all the damn elections.\" https://t.co/3oaw0J38bK","author":"DIN Intel Network (@DININTELNETWORK)"},{"verdict":"FALSE","summary":"The post wildly inflates the unauthorized immigrant population. Independent estimates put the total number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. at roughly 11 million, not 50 million or 100 million. Even the Trump administration's DHS claim about noncitizen registered voters was about 278,000, not tens of millions. This is an opinion/rant about the Federal Reserve, CNBC, lobbying, and government spending; it does not assert a specific checkable fact.","sourceName":"[pewresearch.org](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/); [reuters.com](https://www.re","sourceUrl":"https://x.com/rr76012/status/2117080080782602282","claim":"Under Barack Obama Only 50 Million illegals, illegal Mexicans Today > 100 Million illegal Mexicans and from every country in the world! Stephen Miller White House Oval Office Congress Senate House of Representatives Supreme Court Republicans Democrats Federal Reserve DHS ICE h","author":"Rene Reyna (@rr76012)"}]},"sources":[{"url":"https://x.com/DININTELNETWORK/status/2119586988714311790","name":"[reuters.com](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/three-things-know-about-trumps-election-fraud-allegations-2026-07-17/) NAMES: Massie = Republican U.S. Re","kind":"x","verdict":"TRUE","author":"DIN Intel Network (@DININTELNETWORK)"},{"url":"https://x.com/rr76012/status/2117080080782602282","name":"[pewresearch.org](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/); [reuters.com](https://www.re","kind":"x","verdict":"FALSE","author":"Rene Reyna (@rr76012)"}],"url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1794187199656-news-segment-massie-mocks-gop-election-fraud-talk","listenUrl":"https://oncast.fm/c/news","attribution":{"publisher":"Oncast","site":"https://oncast.fm","url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1794187199656-news-segment-massie-mocks-gop-election-fraud-talk","cite":"Cite https://oncast.fm/story/1794187199656-news-segment-massie-mocks-gop-election-fraud-talk and the original source links. Fact-check by Oncast (oncast.fm)."},"hostsSaid":[{"host":"Brian","text":"DIN Intel Network posted on X a clip of Congressman Thomas Massie mocking his own party's election fraud talk."},{"host":"Bella","text":"Massie, a Kentucky Republican, says it's ironic that his side controls the House, Senate, Supreme Court, and White House—and they're still yelling \"election fraud.\""},{"host":"Brian","text":"He pushed the claim that they won the elections."},{"host":"Bella","text":"That is the whole tension in one sentence."},{"host":"Brian","text":"Here's the background. After the last national elections, Republicans took the White House, the Senate, and the House. The Supreme Court already had a conservative majority."},{"host":"Bella","text":"So when President Trump keeps pushing fraud claims, he's not claiming he lost. He's claiming the system is still dirty even when he wins."},{"host":"Brian","text":"Exactly. Trump first made election fraud central in 2020, and he never dropped it even after winning in 2024."},{"host":"Bella","text":"His allies push theories about noncitizens voting and machines flipping votes."},{"host":"Brian","text":"But fact-checkers and Republican state officials have called those claims misleading or flat-out false."},{"host":"Bella","text":"So Massie's clip lands because a Republican says it openly."},{"host":"Brian","text":"And Massie is saying out loud what plenty of Republican members only say in private."},{"host":"Bella","text":"But why would a party that just won everything keep telling its voters the elections are rigged?"},{"host":"Brian","text":"Because the base expects it. Trump built a movement on distrust, and that doesn't just stop after a win."},{"host":"Bella","text":"No, that's backwards. You can't celebrate a landslide and then say the process is corrupt. It makes the victory look illegitimate too."},{"host":"Brian","text":"Unless the claim is that fraud is constant, and Republicans overcame it anyway. That's the argument."},{"host":"Bella","text":"But independent fact-checkers have repeatedly found Trump's election fraud claims misleading or false. So what are voters supposed to trust?"},{"host":"Brian","text":"I think Massie's making a simpler point: if you're in charge of every branch, stop acting like the victim."},{"host":"Bella","text":"Oh, come on. That's easy to say when you're a backbencher. Massie doesn't have to run a national coalition."},{"host":"Brian","text":"But he's right that it's a bad look. It corrodes confidence in their own government."},{"host":"Bella","text":"Maybe, but I'd argue the bigger risk is the opposite: if the base believes the system is rigged, they never accept defeat. That's a long-term problem for everyone."},{"host":"Brian","text":"So you dislike the fraud talk because it's false. I dislike it because it's bad politics."},{"host":"Bella","text":"I can live with that split."},{"host":"Brian","text":"Here's where I do agree with Massie: the irony is real. You can't hold all the levers and scream fraud without some voters asking why they bothered voting."},{"host":"Bella","text":"And yet the president's account still posts it. That's the story. Speaking of false numbers, an X account called Rene Reyna posted wildly inflated figures about people coming illegally under Obama."},{"host":"Brian","text":"A hundred million? That would be nearly a third of the country."},{"host":"Bella","text":"Independent estimates put the total unauthorized immigrant population around 11 million. Not 50, not 100."},{"host":"Brian","text":"The post tags Stephen Miller, DHS, ICE—like throwing more agencies at a false number makes it true."},{"host":"Bella","text":"Even the Trump administration's DHS claim about noncitizen registered voters was around 278,000, not tens of millions."},{"host":"Brian","text":"So the actual policy debate gets buried under numbers nobody should believe."},{"host":"Bella","text":"That's the damage. We can argue about border security without inventing a hundred million people."},{"host":"Brian","text":"But the underlying anxiety about immigration is real, even if the numbers are false."},{"host":"Bella","text":"No, numbers matter. If you inflate them, you change the policy debate."},{"host":"Brian","text":"I'm not defending the post. I'm saying even 11 million is a lot, and people are angry."},{"host":"Bella","text":"Anger is fair. But a false number makes the whole side look unserious."},{"host":"Brian","text":"Then we check Pew Research for them."},{"host":"Bella","text":"I did. Roughly 11 million. That's the number to argue about."},{"host":"Brian","text":"And that's still a big number—big enough to have a real fight over policy."},{"host":"Bella","text":"Yes, and the fight should be about enforcement and legal pathways, not invented millions."},{"host":"Brian","text":"Fine. But the post exists because the real number still feels like a crisis to a lot of people."},{"host":"Bella","text":"Then let's talk about the real number and not a hundred million. That's the only way to keep the argument honest."}]}