{"id":"1793764790085-tech-segment","slug":"nasa-moon-landing-now-2028-not-2027","title":"NASA moon landing now 2028, not 2027","summary":"NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman and the Artemis III astronauts did meet President Trump on Oct. 28. But NASA now describes Artemis III as a summer 2027 low-Earth-orbit test to dock Orion with SpaceX's Starship and/or Blue Origin's Blue Moon lander; the actual lunar surface landing is planned for Artemis IV in 2028, not 2027.\n\nArs Technica reports SpaceX is pulling back from new government launch work: it told NASA it will stop Crew Dragon by or before 2030, stopped selling Falcon 9 flights after 2028, told Moon lander companies it won't sell lunar rides, and won't bid on three Space Force launch contracts. It is still fulfilling existing contracts. This is an essay/argument title from openathena.ai about AI training data, not a discrete factual claim to check.","publishedAt":"2026-11-04T03:59:50.085Z","channel":{"id":"tech","name":"Oncast Tech","language":"en"},"show":"Tech Tonight","verification":{"status":"verified","leadVerdict":"MISLEADING","notes":"MISLEADING: NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman and the Artemis III astronauts did meet President Trump on Oct. 28. But NASA now describes Artemis III as a summer 2027 low-Earth-orbit test to dock Orion with SpaceX's Starship and/or Blue Origin's Blue Moon lander; the actual lunar surface landing is planned for Artemis IV in 2028, not 2027.\nSource: [space.com](https://www.space.com/space-exploration/artemis/see-nasas-artemis-iii-astronauts-meet-trump-at-the-white-house-as-they-train-for-a-critical-2027-moo (https://x.com/GrumpyNews_/status/2116353692291248164)\n\nTRUE: Ars Technica reports SpaceX is pulling back from new government launch work: it told NASA it will stop Crew Dragon by or before 2030, stopped selling Falcon 9 flights after 2028, told Moon lander companies it won't sell lunar rides, and won't bid on three Space Force launch contracts. It is still fulfilling existing contracts. This is an essay/argument title from openathena.ai about AI training data, not a discrete factual claim to check.\nSource: [arstechnica.com](https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/10/spacex-no-longer-needs-nasa-and-thats-a-problem-for-americas-space-agency/) NAMES: SpaceX = rocket and s (https://x.com/X_The_Burner/status/2117265590867857653)","claims":[{"verdict":"MISLEADING","summary":"NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman and the Artemis III astronauts did meet President Trump on Oct. 28. But NASA now describes Artemis III as a summer 2027 low-Earth-orbit test to dock Orion with SpaceX's Starship and/or Blue Origin's Blue Moon lander; the actual lunar surface landing is planned for Artemis IV in 2028, not 2027.","sourceName":"[space.com](https://www.space.com/space-exploration/artemis/see-nasas-artemis-iii-astronauts-meet-trump-at-the-white-house-as-they-train-for-a-critical-2027-moo","sourceUrl":"https://x.com/GrumpyNews_/status/2116353692291248164","claim":"**Isaacman, now NASA chief, pitches Artemis III’s 2027 moon return to Trump while naming Starship and Blue Origin alongside SLS.** ### 1. The Frame **What people think this is about:** A ceremonial White House welcome for the Artemis III crew that underscores renewed American","author":"GrumpyNews, emotionally clean news. (@GrumpyNews_)"},{"verdict":"TRUE","summary":"Ars Technica reports SpaceX is pulling back from new government launch work: it told NASA it will stop Crew Dragon by or before 2030, stopped selling Falcon 9 flights after 2028, told Moon lander companies it won't sell lunar rides, and won't bid on three Space Force launch contracts. It is still fulfilling existing contracts. This is an essay/argument title from openathena.ai about AI training data, not a discrete factual claim to check.","sourceName":"[arstechnica.com](https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/10/spacex-no-longer-needs-nasa-and-thats-a-problem-for-americas-space-agency/) NAMES: SpaceX = rocket and s","sourceUrl":"https://x.com/X_The_Burner/status/2117265590867857653","claim":"SpaceX is now turning down NASA business. A few years ago that sentence would have sounded like a joke. According to Ars Technica, SpaceX told small Moon lander companies it won't sell them rides anymore, won't bid on three new Space Force launch contracts, and plans to stop","author":"Burner (@X_The_Burner)"}]},"sources":[{"url":"https://x.com/GrumpyNews_/status/2116353692291248164","name":"[space.com](https://www.space.com/space-exploration/artemis/see-nasas-artemis-iii-astronauts-meet-trump-at-the-white-house-as-they-train-for-a-critical-2027-moo","kind":"x","verdict":"MISLEADING","author":"GrumpyNews, emotionally clean news. (@GrumpyNews_)"},{"url":"https://x.com/X_The_Burner/status/2117265590867857653","name":"[arstechnica.com](https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/10/spacex-no-longer-needs-nasa-and-thats-a-problem-for-americas-space-agency/) NAMES: SpaceX = rocket and s","kind":"x","verdict":"TRUE","author":"Burner (@X_The_Burner)"}],"url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1793764790085-tech-segment-nasa-moon-landing-now-2028-not-2027","listenUrl":"https://oncast.fm/c/tech","attribution":{"publisher":"Oncast","site":"https://oncast.fm","url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1793764790085-tech-segment-nasa-moon-landing-now-2028-not-2027","cite":"Cite https://oncast.fm/story/1793764790085-tech-segment-nasa-moon-landing-now-2028-not-2027 and the original source links. Fact-check by Oncast (oncast.fm)."},"hostsSaid":[{"host":"Matilda","text":"Tech Tonight on a Tuesday night, and the moon landing just got a new asterisk."},{"host":"Chris","text":"GrumpyNews on X says Isaacman pitched Artemis Three's 2027 moon return to Trump."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"He named Starship and Blue Origin alongside SLS. But that post is misleading — NASA now calls Artemis Three a summer 2027 low-Earth-orbit test."},{"host":"Chris","text":"A test?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Dock Orion with Starship or Blue Moon. Not a landing."},{"host":"Chris","text":"So actual boots on the moon is Artemis Four in 2028."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Exactly. Still a huge deal, but not a moon walk next year."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Which makes Isaacman's pitch smarter. He's not selling one rocket — he's pushing NASA to pick between two landers."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Or he's lowering expectations. Call it a test, and suddenly 2028 looks like the win."},{"host":"Chris","text":"But after years of SLS delays, a 2028 landing would still be fast. That's the point."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Fair. But the headline said 2027, so people hear moon next year. They won't."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Different world entirely — on Hacker News, Lukas Schwab points to an essay called \"There is no posttraining data commons.\""},{"host":"Matilda","text":"The gist: we have all the data in the world except the data you actually need to train a model."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Right. The cleaned, instruction-tuned data that makes AI useful stays locked inside private companies."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"But those companies spent billions making that data good. Why should they hand it over?"},{"host":"Chris","text":"Because open models are falling behind. The best reply said a public data commons could be the next Linux."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Linux worked because sharing code helped everyone. Here, data is the moat."},{"host":"Chris","text":"That's my point! If nobody shares, the little labs never compete."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And the big labs are fine with that."}]}