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Salinas Pliego has clashed for years with AMLO and the Morena government over tax debts that Mexico's SAT claims are owed by Grupo Salinas; Salinas Pliego calls that political persecution, while President Claudia Sheinbaum has denied persecution and said the company must pay what authorities have determined. The latest escalation followed a New York Times report that U.S. agencies were examining allegations against López Beltrán over possible organized crime and fuel-smuggling ties — though no formal investigations or public charges have been announced. Salinas Pliego\n\nThe AI boom is splitting Wall Street: some large investors/fund managers warn about a bubble, while banks continue seeing AI-related business opportunities. This is an editorial cartoon by Chavo del Toro; it is commentary/art, not a factual claim.\n\nEl Economista reports that Camacho Ruiz said there is still no date for the secure bus stop to begin operating, even though the proposal was presented to authorities.\n\nAndrés Manuel López Beltrán publicly accused businessman Ricardo Salinas Pliego of running a “dirty war” to link him to corruption and fuel smuggling; Salinas Pliego responded with insults and no evidence.\n\nTrade between Venezuela and Colombia is growing unevenly: Venezuelan pur","publishedAt":"2026-11-04T00:39:06.308Z","channel":{"id":"tech-es","name":"Oncast en Español","language":"es"},"show":"Esta Noche","verification":{"status":"verified","leadVerdict":"TRUE","notes":"TRUE: The AI boom is splitting Wall Street: some large investors/fund managers warn about a bubble, while banks continue seeing AI-related business opportunities. This is an editorial cartoon by Chavo del Toro; it is commentary/art, not a factual claim.\nSource: [bloomberglinea.com](https://bloomberglinea.com) POST 2117773840214540398: NOCLAIM none (https://x.com/BloombergLinea_/status/2117773134627504191)\n\nTRUE: El Economista reports that Camacho Ruiz said there is still no date for the secure bus stop to begin operating, even though the proposal was presented to authorities.\nSource: [eleconomista.com.mx](https://eleconomista.com.mx) (https://x.com/eleconomista/status/2117777676350235035)\n\nTRUE: Andrés Manuel López Beltrán publicly accused businessman Ricardo Salinas Pliego of running a “dirty war” to link him to corruption and fuel smuggling; Salinas Pliego responded with insults and no evidence.\nSource: [tribuna.com.mx](https://tribuna.com.mx/mexico/2026/11/03/viven-como-reyes-robando-salinas-pliego-arremete-contra-andy-lopez-tras-acusarlo-de-una-campana-en-su- (https://x.com/BloombergLinea_/status/2117776482466455989)\n\nTRUE: Trade between Venezuela and Colombia is growing unevenly: Venezuelan purchases are increasing while its exports are still falling, according to Bloomberg Línea.\nSource: [bloomberglinea.com](https://bloomberglinea.com) (https://x.com/BloombergLinea_/status/2117776460362461196)\n\nTRUE: Reuters reported that U.S. political consultants are trying to position their candidates inside AI tools such as ChatGPT, Claude and Gemini through optimization strategies. This is a personal account of an AI benchmark test the user says they will share later; it makes no verifiable factual claim.\nSource: [reuters.com](https://reuters.com) NAMES: ChatGPT = OpenAI's chatbot; Claude = Anthropic's assistant; Gemini = Google's AI assistant. POST 2116483731615821956:  (https://x.com/UtopIAlab1/status/2115915844643643615)\n\nTRUE: Nikkei Asia reported that U.S. tech giants' hidden AI-related debt rose 90% to $3.2 trillion in six months. This is a Show HN project announcement for HackerTV, a tool that turns Hacker News-recommended YouTube videos into TV channels. It is not a factual claim.\nSource: [asia.nikkei.com](https://asia.nikkei.com) POST hn:50346755: NOCLAIM none (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50358422)","claims":[{"verdict":"TRUE","summary":"The AI boom is splitting Wall Street: some large investors/fund managers warn about a bubble, while banks continue seeing AI-related business opportunities. 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Fact-check by Oncast (oncast.fm)."},"hostsSaid":[{"host":"Diego","text":"Estás en Esta Noche, y hoy arrancamos con una pelea que ya escaló a insultos."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Hace minutos, Ricardo Salinas compartió en X un ataque de Vicente Fox contra Claudia Sheinbaum."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Y no se quedó ahí: el hijo de AMLO lo acusó de guerra sucia."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Bloomberg Línea reporta que López Beltrán denunció una campaña para vincularlo con corrupción y huachicol fiscal."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Y señaló directamente a Salinas Pliego como el orquestador. No lo insinuó, lo dijo."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Salinas no respondió con documentos. Lo llamó corrupto, ratero, y subió el tono contra el expresidente."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Un debate de altura: uno acusa, el otro insulta."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Y hay videos de AMLO mandando mensaje a Salinas que resultaron manipulados."},{"host":"Diego","text":"¿Manipulados con inteligencia artificial?"},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Verificado MX y AP confirmaron que el original es de marzo de 2020 y habla de una zona arqueológica."},{"host":"Diego","text":"O sea, pelean por un video que ni siquiera es real."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Vamos a los hechos: The New York Times dice que agencias de Estados Unidos están revisando señalamientos contra López Beltrán."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Correcto, pero no hay investigaciones formales ni cargos. Es una revisión, no sentencia."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Exacto. Esto es una acusación pública de un lado y una sarta de insultos del otro."},{"host":"Diego","text":"No me gusta cómo respondió Salinas, pero algo tiene razón: si te acusan, pides pruebas."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"¡Y él tampoco las dio! Dijo que roban, sin un solo papel."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Pero López Beltrán tampoco presentó pruebas contra Salinas. Es acusación contra acusación."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Por eso la acusación de guerra sucia es grave: sin pruebas, es puro ruido político."},{"host":"Diego","text":"¿Y qué esperabas? Es campaña permanente: uno acusa, otro insulta, los hechos sobran."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"¡No! Justo por eso no podemos normalizarlo. Las acusaciones sin pruebas envenenan la discusión."},{"host":"Diego","text":"En algo tienes razón: a estos señores les importa la narrativa, no la gente."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"La narrativa es simple: dos familias políticas y empresariales dándose con todo."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Y mientras, el SAT sigue esperando los impuestos que Salinas dice no deber."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Sheinbaum ha dicho que no hay persecución: Grupo Salinas debe pagar lo que digan las autoridades."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Ese pleito es viejo y ahora se mezcla con el hijo del expresidente. Impuestos y poder."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"No es un simple pleito: hay una revisión de agencias de Estados Unidos. Eso es serio."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Serio, sí. Pero hasta que haya algo formal, vemos puros golpes en redes."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Me quedo con la frase de López Beltrán: “Los insultos nunca han sido prueba de nada.”"},{"host":"Diego","text":"Esa es buena. Repetir una acusación mil veces no la vuelve verdad."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Exacto. Si Salinas tiene pruebas, que las presente donde corresponde."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Y si no, que deje de incendiar la red."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Mientras tanto, Wall Street no se decide si la inteligencia artificial es burbuja o negocio."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Bloomberg Línea dice que los grandes gestores ven burbuja, y los bancos ven negocio."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"¿Quién tiene razón? Los gestores viven de cuidar el riesgo; los bancos, de financiar tecnológicas."},{"host":"Diego","text":"O sea, los dos te cuentan lo que les conviene."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"No es conspiración, es conflicto de interés de manual."},{"host":"Diego","text":"La deuda oculta ligada a IA de las gigantes subió noventa por ciento en seis meses."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Eso son tres punto dos billones de dólares."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Y si la IA no rinde, el golpe no lo pagan nomás los bancos, lo pagamos todos."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"En México, si esas tecnológicas tiemblan, el peso y la bolsa lo sienten en minutos."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Por eso hay que mirar balances, no comprar cuentos ni de optimistas ni de agoreros."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Mi lectura: hay exageración en precios, pero la adopción de IA en empresas mexicanas apenas empieza."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Burbuja en ciertos activos, no en la tecnología. Eso es más razonable."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Hablando de IA, el rumor de la tarde es que OpenAI planea comprar chips a Google."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"¿OpenAI usando los procesadores de Google? Sería ver a dos rivales firmando la paz."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Finanzas Darin lo publicó en X, sin monto, volumen ni calendario. Puro humo por ahora."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Exacto: no está confirmado por ninguna de las dos. Es solo una versión que corre."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Claro, porque si fuera cierto, a Nvidia no le haría ninguna gracia."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"No manches, Diego. Pero sí, OpenAI es de los grandes clientes de Nvidia."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Si se confirma, diría que OpenAI quiere dejar de depender de un solo proveedor."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Y para México importa: si bajan los costos de entrenar IA, más negocios se suben."},{"host":"Diego","text":"Por ahora, rumor. Ni compra ni acercamiento confirmado."},{"host":"Sofía","text":"Pendientes a algo oficial de OpenAI o Google, no de cuentas anónimas."}]}