{"id":"1793493551219-money-segment","slug":"bitcoin-s-80k-fight-and-fed-nerves","title":"Bitcoin's 80k fight and Fed nerves","summary":"The Fed's rate decision was on Oct 28 and Bitcoin was trading around $80,000; spot Bitcoin ETFs had $110 million of inflows on Oct 26 and $176 million the next day.","publishedAt":"2026-11-01T00:39:11.219Z","channel":{"id":"money","name":"Oncast Money","language":"en"},"show":"Money Tonight","verification":{"status":"verified","leadVerdict":"TRUE","notes":"TRUE: The Fed's rate decision was on Oct 28 and Bitcoin was trading around $80,000; spot Bitcoin ETFs had $110 million of inflows on Oct 26 and $176 million the next day.\nSource: [investing.com](https://www.investing.com/news/cryptocurrency-news/bitcoin-up-to-near-81k-as-tech-rally-buoys-risk-appetite-fed-meeting-awaited-4977527), [insid (https://x.com/De3ngineer/status/2115085181904187442)","claims":[{"verdict":"TRUE","summary":"The Fed's rate decision was on Oct 28 and Bitcoin was trading around $80,000; spot Bitcoin ETFs had $110 million of inflows on Oct 26 and $176 million the next day.","sourceName":"[investing.com](https://www.investing.com/news/cryptocurrency-news/bitcoin-up-to-near-81k-as-tech-rally-buoys-risk-appetite-fed-meeting-awaited-4977527), [insid","sourceUrl":"https://x.com/De3ngineer/status/2115085181904187442","claim":"Gm it's Taco day, Though I might get Burrito's instead Anyways come join the convo 🔗👇 Overall Market Mood: Bearish Most Discussed Narratives → Bitcoin defending the $80,000 level → Federal Reserve decision scheduled for October 28 → Bitcoin ETF inflows returning to $110 https:/","author":"@De3ngineer"}]},"sources":[{"url":"https://x.com/De3ngineer/status/2115085181904187442","name":"[investing.com](https://www.investing.com/news/cryptocurrency-news/bitcoin-up-to-near-81k-as-tech-rally-buoys-risk-appetite-fed-meeting-awaited-4977527), [insid","kind":"x","verdict":"TRUE","author":"@De3ngineer"}],"url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1793493551219-money-segment-bitcoin-s-80k-fight-and-fed-nerves","listenUrl":"https://oncast.fm/c/money","attribution":{"publisher":"Oncast","site":"https://oncast.fm","url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1793493551219-money-segment-bitcoin-s-80k-fight-and-fed-nerves","cite":"Cite https://oncast.fm/story/1793493551219-money-segment-bitcoin-s-80k-fight-and-fed-nerves and the original source links. Fact-check by Oncast (oncast.fm)."},"hostsSaid":[{"host":"Adam","text":"Bitcoin's fight at eighty thousand just got a lot more interesting, because the Fed is back in the picture."},{"host":"Bill","text":"A market watcher on X summed up the mood in one post: bearish overall, bitcoin defending eighty thousand, the Fed decision coming Tuesday, and ETF money flowing back in."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Bearish? With ETF inflows returning? Those two usually don't go together."},{"host":"Bill","text":"That's exactly the tension. The post says a hundred and ten million came into spot bitcoin ETFs on Monday, more the next day, yet the price slips."},{"host":"Adam","text":"So institutions are buying the dip while retail is panicking. I've seen this movie before — smart money accumulates quietly."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Or it's when the Fed says something hawkish and everyone rushes for the exit, ETFs or not."},{"host":"Adam","text":"The numbers check out, though. A hundred and ten million in one day, more the next, according to the usual trackers. That's real money."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Then why is bitcoin below eighty thousand right now? If the big players are buying, the price shouldn't be sliding."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Because the Fed meeting started today, and futures markets are pricing in a hawkish hold. No rate cut, maybe even a hint of another hike if inflation stays sticky."},{"host":"Bill","text":"That's already priced in. Everyone expects a hold. Bitcoin barely moved on the news itself."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Below eighty thousand is not 'barely moved.' That level was support for weeks. Breaking it tells you real money is nervous."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Support levels break and get reclaimed all the time. You're acting like this is the end of the story."},{"host":"Adam","text":"I'm not. I'm saying the setup is worse than the ETF inflow headline suggests. Inflows are returning, but the price is still falling. That means selling pressure is stronger."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Or it means the ETF buyers are early, and the rest of the market will follow once the Fed speaks. That's how bottoms form."},{"host":"Adam","text":"You're describing hope. I'm describing what's on the screen right now: bitcoin below eighty, Asian tech rally ignored, Fed meeting underway."},{"host":"Bill","text":"You sound like a bear in a bull costume."},{"host":"Adam","text":"And you sound like a guy who bought the dip and is now defending his position."},{"host":"Bill","text":"I didn't buy anything. I just think the panic is overdone. The Fed will hold, maybe say 'data dependent,' and bitcoin bounces."},{"host":"Adam","text":"If they say 'data dependent,' that's already a warning. The last inflation print wasn't great. Another hot number and they're in trouble."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Then the ETF inflows matter even more — institutions are positioning for the long term, not next week's Fed statement."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Institutions also hedge. They buy ETFs and sell futures. You don't know the net position from one number."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Now you're moving the goalposts. First it's 'selling pressure,' now it's 'they're hedging.'"},{"host":"Adam","text":"I'm saying one day of inflows doesn't prove the bottom is in. That's not goalpost moving, that's reading the data."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Fine. We'll see on Tuesday. If bitcoin's above eighty after the Fed, I'm right. If it's below, I'll admit the bears had a point."},{"host":"Adam","text":"I'll hold you to that."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Meanwhile, the same crypto news account on X posted a list of other claims, and I want to run them by you."},{"host":"Adam","text":"What else did they throw out?"},{"host":"Bill","text":"They say US emergency oil reserves hit the lowest level since 1982, Brent crude is above a hundred and fifteen, and Kraken's parent is planning something with a decentralized exchange called Hyperliquid."},{"host":"Adam","text":"The bitcoin part checks out — it did dip below eighty as the Fed meeting began. The oil reserve and Brent numbers? No official data confirms those."},{"host":"Bill","text":"And the Kraken thing?"},{"host":"Adam","text":"No source behind it at all. It's a rumor until Kraken or its parent says something."},{"host":"Bill","text":"So three claims, one true. That's why I don't read crypto breaking news accounts."},{"host":"Adam","text":"To be fair, they say breaking news, not confirmed news."},{"host":"Bill","text":"There's a difference? Apparently not."},{"host":"Adam","text":"The oil reserve claim especially deserves a fact-check. If it were true, that's a huge story. It's not in any government release."},{"host":"Bill","text":"So we're left with the same lesson as always: bitcoin's move is real, the rest is noise."}]}