{"id":"1792883309740-tech-segment","slug":"openai-and-google-archenemies-on-one-cloud","title":"OpenAI and Google: Archenemies on one cloud","summary":"Daniela Amodei is indeed co-founder and president of Anthropic, the AI company behind Claude. She previously served as VP of safety and policy at OpenAI before co-founding Anthropic in 2021 with her brother Dario and other former OpenAI employees.\n\nOpenAI and Google Cloud announced a partnership on October 21, 2026, to bring OpenAI's models and Codex into Google Cloud's Model Garden. Microsoft remains OpenAI's primary cloud partner. This is an explainer headline about EV battery drain while parked; it states a true phenomenon but makes no specific factual claim requiring verification. This is an explainer headline about EV battery cooling systems; no specific factual claim is made beyond the existence of such systems. This is an explainer headline about types of digital wallets; no specific factual claim requiring verification. This is an explainer headline about eSIM vs physical SIM tradeoffs; no specific factual claim requiring verification.","publishedAt":"2026-10-24T23:08:29.740Z","channel":{"id":"tech","name":"Oncast Tech","language":"en"},"show":"Tech Tonight","verification":{"status":"verified","leadVerdict":"TRUE","notes":"TRUE: Daniela Amodei is indeed co-founder and president of Anthropic, the AI company behind Claude. She previously served as VP of safety and policy at OpenAI before co-founding Anthropic in 2021 with her brother Dario and other former OpenAI employees.\nSource: [wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DanielaAmodei), [forbes.com](https://www.forbes.com/profile/daniela-amodei/) (https://x.com/PrayingtoJesus2/status/2113400007437029522)\n\nTRUE: OpenAI and Google Cloud announced a partnership on October 21, 2026, to bring OpenAI's models and Codex into Google Cloud's Model Garden. Microsoft remains OpenAI's primary cloud partner. 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This is an explainer headline about EV battery drain while parked; it states a true phenomenon but makes no specific factual claim requiring verification. This is an explainer headline about EV battery cooling systems; no specific factual claim is made beyond the existence of such systems. This is an explainer headline about types of digital wallets; no specific factual claim requiring verification. This is an explainer headline about eSIM vs physical SIM tradeoffs; no specific factual claim requiring verification.","sourceName":"[openai.com](https://openai.com/index/openai-models-google-cloud) POST news:672c70bed79e7c2c: NOCLAIM [engadget.com](https://www.engadget.com/2292646/ev-battery","sourceUrl":"https://x.com/ahabgold/status/2112916262728904919","claim":"🚨 OPENAI AND GOOGLE JUST TEAMED UP. Yes. Seriously. Two of the biggest rivals in artificial intelligence are now partnering. OpenAI's advanced models and Codex are coming to Google Cloud. Google has Gemini. OpenAI has ChatGPT. And now Google's cloud customers can access https://","author":"♛ 🅰🅷🅰🅱 Ⅹ™ (@ahabgold)"}]},"sources":[{"url":"https://x.com/PrayingtoJesus2/status/2113400007437029522","name":"[wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DanielaAmodei), [forbes.com](https://www.forbes.com/profile/daniela-amodei/)","kind":"x","verdict":"TRUE","author":"Dear Jesus (@PrayingtoJesus2)"},{"url":"https://x.com/ahabgold/status/2112916262728904919","name":"[openai.com](https://openai.com/index/openai-models-google-cloud) POST news:672c70bed79e7c2c: NOCLAIM [engadget.com](https://www.engadget.com/2292646/ev-battery","kind":"x","verdict":"TRUE","author":"♛ 🅰🅷🅰🅱 Ⅹ™ (@ahabgold)"}],"url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1792883309740-tech-segment-openai-and-google-archenemies-on-one-cloud","listenUrl":"https://oncast.fm/c/tech","attribution":{"publisher":"Oncast","site":"https://oncast.fm","url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1792883309740-tech-segment-openai-and-google-archenemies-on-one-cloud","cite":"Cite https://oncast.fm/story/1792883309740-tech-segment-openai-and-google-archenemies-on-one-cloud and the original source links. Fact-check by Oncast (oncast.fm)."},"hostsSaid":[{"host":"Matilda","text":"This one caught my eye, Chris. Someone asked Gemini if there are any women in AI, and it answered yes, several prominent women."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Well, that settles it. Glad we asked the AI."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Hang on, because the answer starts with Daniela Amodei, the president of Anthropic. Correct. But the reply reads like a corporate directory."},{"host":"Chris","text":"It's technically right, though. She co-founded Anthropic with her brother Dario in 2021. Before that she was VP of safety at OpenAI."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Right, and that's real. But the bigger problem is how the AI frames the question, like women in AI are a diversity trivia section rather than, you know, a huge part of the field."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Feels like a self-checkout clerk reciting the store directory."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Exactly. It's not wrong, it's just… polite and shallow. The thing is, if you asked it about men in AI it would just list Sam Altman and Demis Hassabis, right? Same flatness."},{"host":"Chris","text":"No, no, I don't think the flatness is the problem. I think the prompt was a trap, and Gemini walked right into the trap."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"A trap? It answered correctly."},{"host":"Chris","text":"The question isn't really 'are there women?' It's 'are women being ignored in AI leadership?' And Gemini gave a list of names instead of talking about structural power."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"So you wanted the AI to give a sociology lecture?"},{"host":"Chris","text":"I wanted it to say yes, but then talk about who actually holds the biggest AGI budgets. And that list is not exactly gender balanced."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"That's a much more interesting answer. But be fair, nobody's asking ChatGPT to fix venture capital."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Fine, but it did what these models always do when you ask about power: it gives you a brochure instead of an analysis."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And the person who posted it is a random account on X with zero replies. That's the whole conversation right there."},{"host":"Chris","text":"It's a nothingburger with a real point buried inside: the AI knows the names, but still doesn't get the story."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Okay. Speaking of AI, a post says OpenAI and Google just teamed up. I had to check because the exclamation points were doing heavy lifting."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Wait, but those two are supposed to hate each other."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"That's the old story. The announcement is real: OpenAI's models and Codex are coming to Google Cloud."},{"host":"Chris","text":"So Google's cloud customers can rent OpenAI's stuff, while Google also pushes its own Gemini model to the exact same customers."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Yes, and that's the part I find genuinely interesting: Google is now selling you a menu where one of the options is the competitor's brain."},{"host":"Chris","text":"And Microsoft is still OpenAI's primary cloud partner. So Microsoft's closest AI ally is now also selling through Microsoft's biggest cloud rival."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Right, this is the cloud version of bumper cars. Everyone is in everyone else's lane."},{"host":"Chris","text":"But let's be honest about what this really is. This is a distribution deal. OpenAI wants more enterprise customers, and Google Cloud has the pipes."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Sure, and it also signals that OpenAI is not afraid to step on Microsoft's toes. They need revenue, Microsoft or not."},{"host":"Chris","text":"So is this a sign that OpenAI is getting less dependent on Microsoft?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"I'd say it's a sign that the model layer is becoming a utility. You buy the model where you already keep your data, same as buying toilet paper at the grocery store."},{"host":"Chris","text":"High-tech toilet paper. But the real fight is for developer mindshare, and Codex is the developer tool, right?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Yes, Codex is OpenAI's coding agent. And if developers try it on Google Cloud, they might not want to leave."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Okay, but here's what I want to know: if you're a company already on Google Cloud, do you trust OpenAI's model with your production data?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"That's the sharp question, and nobody has answered it. Google's pitch to enterprises has always been 'your data stays here, safe with us.'"},{"host":"Chris","text":"And now the same sales rep might say 'except when you use this other company's model, then your data goes over there.'"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"I don't think the data leaves Google Cloud, but the service is provided by OpenAI. Companies are going to have to read the fine print."},{"host":"Chris","text":"So the exclamation points in that post were wrong. It's not OpenAI and Google teaming up. It's OpenAI renting shelf space at the Google supermarket."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"A very expensive shelf. But yes, the headlines overstate it. The partnership is real, but 'teaming up' is doing a lot of work."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Different world entirely. Engadget ran an explainer about why your EV battery loses charge while parked. I thought this was obvious."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"I thought so too, but the detail that caught me: some of it is totally out of your control."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Yeah, the car runs background stuff. Battery management, cooling, checking for updates, keeping the alarm alive. It's never fully off."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And extreme weather makes it worse. If it's freezing or hot outside, the car spends energy just keeping the battery at a survivable temperature."},{"host":"Chris","text":"So the guy at the airport who left his rental EV with ten percent for a week might come back to a brick."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Possibly. But most people lose one or two percent overnight. It's not fatal, it's just inconvenient."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Still, this is one of those things nobody tells you at the dealership. 'Oh, by the way, your car is never fully off.'"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"There's also the part about your phone app pinging the car. Every time you check the app, you wake the car up. That's on you."},{"host":"Chris","text":"I know I check my car app too much. Tonight's top tech stories in one place."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Also from Engadget, a piece on EV battery cooling, and before you say it, Chris, no, it's not just a radiator with water."},{"host":"Chris","text":"You got me. EV batteries need to stay cool while charging fast. Some use liquid cooling, some use refrigerant. It's a whole system."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And that's the thing people miss: the battery's not just a fuel tank, it's a living system that wants to be at the perfect temperature all the time."},{"host":"Chris","text":"One of the reasons fast charging slows down when it's hot out. The car is protecting the battery."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Same list had digital wallets explained, and an eSIM versus physical SIM piece. Not new, but useful if you've been putting off switching."},{"host":"Chris","text":"I'll save you the click: eSIMs are more convenient until your phone breaks and you can't just pull the sim out. There, done."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Thank you, Chris. Saved us all four minutes."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Still, the parked battery one is the most practical thing in that list. Engadget quietly doing the good work."}]}