{"id":"1792881958391-money-segment","slug":"moonshot-removes-hacking-skills-from-kimi-model","title":"Moonshot removes hacking skills from Kimi model","summary":"Moonshot AI confirmed it removed cyber-related training data from Kimi K3.1 Pro before its open-weight release, saying this reduced the model's score on its internal cyber benchmark from 90.5% to 81.0%. This is a headline linking out for the full statement. The post itself paraphrases a Trump remark about Cuba and Iran but includes no independently checkable factual assertion as written. If the show covers it, confirm the quote against the linked article/reporting.","publishedAt":"2026-10-24T22:45:58.391Z","channel":{"id":"money","name":"Oncast Money","language":"en"},"show":"Closing Bell","verification":{"status":"verified","leadVerdict":"TRUE","notes":"TRUE: Moonshot AI confirmed it removed cyber-related training data from Kimi K3.1 Pro before its open-weight release, saying this reduced the model's score on its internal cyber benchmark from 90.5% to 81.0%. This is a headline linking out for the full statement. The post itself paraphrases a Trump remark about Cuba and Iran but includes no independently checkable factual assertion as written. If the show covers it, confirm the quote against the linked article/reporting.\nSource: [reuters.com](https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/moonshot-curbs-hacking-ability-in-new-kimi-model-as-fears-grow-over-aipowered-cyberattacks-497063 (https://x.com/Polymarket/status/2114122105608704002)","claims":[{"verdict":"TRUE","summary":"Moonshot AI confirmed it removed cyber-related training data from Kimi K3.1 Pro before its open-weight release, saying this reduced the model's score on its internal cyber benchmark from 90.5% to 81.0%. This is a headline linking out for the full statement. The post itself paraphrases a Trump remark about Cuba and Iran but includes no independently checkable factual assertion as written. If the show covers it, confirm the quote against the linked article/reporting.","sourceName":"[reuters.com](https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/moonshot-curbs-hacking-ability-in-new-kimi-model-as-fears-grow-over-aipowered-cyberattacks-497063","sourceUrl":"https://x.com/Polymarket/status/2114122105608704002","claim":"JUST IN: Chinese AI startup Moonshot removes cyberattack training data from its latest Kimi model to prevent it from becoming a powerful hacking tool.","author":"@Polymarket"}]},"sources":[{"url":"https://x.com/Polymarket/status/2114122105608704002","name":"[reuters.com](https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/moonshot-curbs-hacking-ability-in-new-kimi-model-as-fears-grow-over-aipowered-cyberattacks-497063","kind":"x","verdict":"TRUE","author":"@Polymarket"}],"url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1792881958391-money-segment-moonshot-removes-hacking-skills-from-kimi-model","listenUrl":"https://oncast.fm/c/money","attribution":{"publisher":"Oncast","site":"https://oncast.fm","url":"https://oncast.fm/story/1792881958391-money-segment-moonshot-removes-hacking-skills-from-kimi-model","cite":"Cite https://oncast.fm/story/1792881958391-money-segment-moonshot-removes-hacking-skills-from-kimi-model and the original source links. Fact-check by Oncast (oncast.fm)."},"hostsSaid":[{"host":"Adam","text":"Sell the rumor, buy the news — that seems to be the mood tonight, Bill."},{"host":"Bill","text":"And the rumor mill today had a lot to sell. Black Monday chatter was everywhere."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Then the futures opened. S&P up two-tenths, Nasdaq up two-tenths, Dow up a tenth. Tom Skey posted the numbers."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Oil's actually down a touch. WTI down a bit, Brent down a bit."},{"host":"Adam","text":"So all that screaming about a crash at the weekend ... and then the market opens green."},{"host":"Bill","text":"It happens every time. People work themselves into a frenzy on a Saturday, and the futures market just shrugs."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Maybe they should look at Friday first. The Dow did fall 652 points. Kalshi Finance had the recap."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Yeah, and that's the day that matters. Almost three out of four S&P stocks ended red, reportedly, but that's an unconfirmed figure. Same with the Dow number."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Fair. But the point stands: Friday was ugly, and the weekend panic looked even uglier."},{"host":"Bill","text":"And you know what? I think that's healthy. If everyone's shouting Black Monday and nothing happens, fear is at a peak. That's usually not the worst setup."},{"host":"Adam","text":"So you're saying panic is bullish?"},{"host":"Bill","text":"I'm saying extremes in sentiment tend to reverse. Not a prediction, and not advice. History."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Meanwhile, a Beijing AI startup is doing something genuinely unusual — removing hacking knowledge from its own model."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Moonshot AI. They pulled cyberattack training data right out of the new Kimi model before releasing it."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Not because it didn't work. Because it worked too well. The report says their internal cyber score dropped from ninety point five percent to eighty-one."},{"host":"Bill","text":"A company choosing to make its own product less dangerous. That's a story."},{"host":"Adam","text":"And it tells you how real the AI cyber threat is. A private lab in Beijing is worried enough to neuter its own model."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Think about that. They're not doing it for PR. They're doing it because the capability is so scary."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Polymarket posted it first and the market reaction was ... muted. No big trade on it."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Because it's a one-off. One company does the right thing. The other ten labs won't."},{"host":"Adam","text":"That's the real argument. Is self-censorship a solution, or just a pause button?"},{"host":"Bill","text":"I say it's a pause button. The research is out there. Another team will pick it up."},{"host":"Adam","text":"So you wish Moonshot had kept its cyber score at ninety percent?"},{"host":"Bill","text":"No! I wish they'd never built the capability in the first place. But they did. Now saying 'we removed it' doesn't make the capability disappear from the world!"},{"host":"Adam","text":"It doesn't. But it's better than open-sourcing a turnkey hacking tool."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Alright, I'll give them credit. It's a responsible move. I just don't think it changes the arms race."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Speaking of things that changed hands... you saw the Zerohedge post?"},{"host":"Bill","text":"Trump says the US will 'take care of Cuba' after Iran. That's the whole post. No article link we could verify, no details."},{"host":"Adam","text":"It's a headline grabbing for air. But the fine print is missing."},{"host":"Bill","text":"And that's the thing about Saturday nights. You get a lot of half-finished stories."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Here's another one, on the energy side. Unusual Whales posted about an Alaska gas venture called Polar LNG."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Executives left, supposedly after raising concerns about hidden Russian financing. They say The New York Times and Financial Times are on it."},{"host":"Adam","text":"We couldn't find the original reporting. It's a claim, not a confirmed fact."},{"host":"Bill","text":"But — and it's a big but — if true, it's a story about sanctioned Russian money trying to get into US LNG via the back door."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Exactly. It would matter for US energy independence and sanctions enforcement. But right now, unverified."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Ready to get properly angry? Some people on Bluesky think the President is personally wrecking the economy."},{"host":"Adam","text":"One account, Khashoggi's Ghost, wrote Trump's 'stupid war' is causing poverty everywhere. No specifics."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Another, Professa Murray, says we're in an oil war while paying wind farms to close. That one has some specific claims, but they're not backed up."},{"host":"Adam","text":"That's fine as opinion. We're a talk show. But when an opinion says 'where are we supposed to get energy' — I want to answer that."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Then answer it."},{"host":"Adam","text":"From the US. We're the world's largest oil producer. If the wind farms close, the grid runs on natural gas and coal. Not nothing."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Which is a much better argument than 'megalomaniac Dune Worm God.'"},{"host":"Adam","text":"I'll give that account style points for the imagery, though."},{"host":"Bill","text":"But that's the genre: strong feelings, weak facts. It's fine to be angry. Just don't confuse a tweet with a balance sheet."},{"host":"Adam","text":"And on that note, the UK economy might be saved by ... Warhammer."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Somebody on Bluesky suggested Games Workshop should reprint the complete Horus Heresy omnibuses to save the UK economy."},{"host":"Adam","text":"You know what? I'll take that over a fistfight about the Federal Reserve."},{"host":"Bill","text":"It's a joke, but it's the kind of joke that has a tiny point. Print money from nerds."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Games Workshop is actually a weird little engine. Those reprints sell out in seconds."},{"host":"Bill","text":"And they're produced in Nottingham. Real British industry."},{"host":"Adam","text":"For the record, we are not recommending you buy plastic space marines."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Speak for yourself. I've still got a garage full of unassembled Orks."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Of course you do."},{"host":"Bill","text":"But look, that about sums up the weekend mood. Futures green, oil a bit lower, one AI lab doing the right thing, and a lot of noise."},{"host":"Adam","text":"Money Tonight is next. They'll have the full rundown and the actual moves on Monday."},{"host":"Bill","text":"Until then, try to enjoy the weekend. The market will still be there on Monday morning."}]}