{"id":"1792711852804-tech-segment","slug":"openai-and-google-cloud-team-up","title":"OpenAI and Google Cloud team up","summary":"OpenAI and Google Cloud announced a partnership to bring OpenAI's frontier models and Codex to Google Cloud's Model Garden, with general availability planned in the coming weeks.","publishedAt":"2026-10-22T23:30:52.804Z","channel":{"id":"tech","name":"Oncast Tech","language":"en"},"show":"Tech Tonight","verification":{"status":"verified","leadVerdict":"TRUE","notes":"TRUE: OpenAI and Google Cloud announced a partnership to bring OpenAI's frontier models and Codex to Google Cloud's Model Garden, with general availability planned in the coming weeks.\nSource: openai.com NAMES: Codex = OpenAI's coding/agentic workflow tool; Gemini = Google's AI model family. POST 2113410989291176270: NOCLAIM NAMES: None. 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I did not have this on my bingo card."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Which part? The 'fierce rivals' part, or the 'suddenly best friends' part?"},{"host":"Chris","text":"Both. OpenAI's models — ChatGPT, Codex — are coming to Google Cloud's Model Garden."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"So Google, which has its own Gemini, is going to serve up the competitor's frontier models to its own cloud customers."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Exactly! Think about that. Google makes money when you use Gemini. Google also makes money when you use ChatGPT on their servers."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"It's the cloud play. Microsoft did it first with Azure, but Google's got the enterprise reach now."},{"host":"Chris","text":"And OpenAI gets distribution without having to build out its own massive inference capacity for every enterprise."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"What happened to the AI wars? I was promised a cage match."},{"host":"Chris","text":"The cage match is for compute. The models are just... merchandise."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"This feels like McDonald's selling Burger King's Whopper. It breaks my brain a little."},{"host":"Chris","text":"But it's smart. Google Cloud wins the deal, OpenAI wins the reach. Everyone else just gets more options."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Except maybe Anthropic and Meta. They're not on the Model Garden menu."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Not yet. But if this works, everyone's going to be on everyone's cloud."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"The official word says general availability in the coming weeks. No pricing yet, but you know enterprise contracts."},{"host":"Chris","text":"So, the real question: does this mean Google admits Gemini needs help?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"No. It means Google wants to be the mall, not the store. They make money either way."},{"host":"Chris","text":"That's... actually a very good point. The mall makes rent no matter whose storefront is busy."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And the stores get foot traffic. It's a partnership of convenience, and both of them have long memories."},{"host":"Chris","text":"But it's a massive story. Two biggest AI labs, working together on distribution, while still competing on models."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Co-opetition. The most annoying word in tech, and it fits perfectly here."},{"host":"Chris","text":"That's the whole industry right now. Hugging and stabbing at the same time."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Speaking of strange bedfellows, a friend of the show sent me something that's making the rounds on the security side."},{"host":"Chris","text":"What now?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"There's an apology post on Hacker News from a user who says they unknowingly broke an embargo about some PHP vulnerabilities."},{"host":"Chris","text":"The classic 'I didn't know it was secret' apology. What were the bugs?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"They're referenced as two CVE identifiers, remote code execution flaws in PHP."},{"host":"Chris","text":"PHP RCEs. That's serious. If those are real, that's a huge deal for most of the web."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"That's the thing — I can't confirm the CVEs exist yet. No official advisory, no patch notes."},{"host":"Chris","text":"So a guy apologized for leaking something we can't even verify leaked?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"He says he was told there was no embargo through his contacts. Then the schedule got scrambled."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Classic telephone game in vulnerability disclosure. Somebody's source didn't get the memo."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"One of the top replies is actually kind. They say if he didn't know about the embargo, he didn't break it."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Someone up the chain did. And now the whole coordinated disclosure timeline is a mess."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Which is precisely why we don't share CVE details before an official advisory. The system is fragile."},{"host":"Chris","text":"But the fact that someone leaked it at all tells us something big is coming for PHP."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Or was. If the schedule shifted, we might see the patch soon. Keep an eye on it."},{"host":"Chris","text":"So we've got an AI detente and a security mystery in one show. Not bad."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And we haven't even gotten to the real argument yet."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Oh no. What did someone post?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"A user named LALA on X posted: 'why are we using ai to construct text messages? the simplest thing ever?'"},{"host":"Chris","text":"Oh, this is about people sending AI-drafted texts and not even proofreading them."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"She says it's outrageous. And she's right that it's lazy. But I think she's missing the point."},{"host":"Chris","text":"No, no, wait. She's got a point. A text message is two sentences. Just type them!"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"For some people, writing anything is hard. AI lowers the barrier. That's not an outrage, that's access."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Access to what? Sending 'happy birthday' without thinking about it? That's not access, that's outsourcing your personality."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"But what if English isn't your first language? Or you're dyslexic? AI can make you sound more like yourself."},{"host":"Chris","text":"More like yourself? It's a language model! It's making you sound like everyone else!"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Not if you use it right. You edit it, you add your voice. The tool isn't the crime, the zero-effort copy-paste is."},{"host":"Chris","text":"But that's exactly what she's complaining about! The 'not even proofreading before sending' crowd!"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Then complain about the people, not the technology. The same people sent nonsense before AI."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Come on. There's a difference between a typo and a robot writing 'I hope this message finds you well' in a text to your mom."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"I'd argue the robot version is at least grammatically correct. Which is more than I can say for half the texts I get."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Fine. But the authenticity point stands. If you can't write a text, what can you write?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Maybe nothing. Maybe that's okay. Not everyone has to be a writer, Chris."},{"host":"Chris","text":"I'm not asking for essays! I'm asking for a human to type 'be there in 10' like a human."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And they will. AI isn't stealing your ability to type. It's stealing your attention, and that's a different problem."},{"host":"Chris","text":"I'm not sure that's better."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"It's more accurate. The real story is that AI text is becoming invisible — people can't tell and don't care."},{"host":"Chris","text":"And that's the part that should scare us. Not a bad birthday text. A world where nobody bothers to notice."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"I'll give you that. But the fix is the same as always: pick up the phone, hear a voice, be a person."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Look at us, solving culture in one segment."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"We should get a badge. Or at least a very nice keyboard."},{"host":"Chris","text":"One more for the road. A post from Orbix says you can now get 67 models on one key, from 11 different labs."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Sixty-seven models. That's Claude Opus 5, GPT-6 Sol, Gemini 3 Flash, DeepSeek V4..."},{"host":"Chris","text":"All on one API key, and Orbix claims the median model runs at 97% under list price."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"The aggregator era is here. One key, every model, no loyalty."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Which is kind of the logical end of the Google-OpenAI thing. Why pick a side when you can pick all of them?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"It also means the labs are becoming interchangeable. Price and speed matter more than brand."},{"host":"Chris","text":"Like airlines. You don't love a 737, you love where it gets you."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And the models are the seats. Sometimes you get an upgrade, sometimes you get a middle seat between Gemini and Kimi."},{"host":"Chris","text":"The future of AI is basically Expedia for tokens."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Which is... honestly, I don't hate it. More competition, lower prices, try everything."},{"host":"Chris","text":"But would you trust some aggregator with your production code? One key, 67 models, one breach?"},{"host":"Matilda","text":"No. Not for anything serious. But for experimentation, for benchmarking, for playing?"},{"host":"Chris","text":"That's the fun part. You can see what every lab is actually shipping."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"And you can finally answer the question everyone's been asking: is Claude 5.5 Opus really that good at code?"},{"host":"Chris","text":"Spoiler: the internet will have opinions. But now you can check it yourself."},{"host":"Matilda","text":"Which is the whole point. Test everything, trust nothing, pick what works."}]}